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on president obama and governor romney right now. we're asking debate watchers, those who watched the debate to the history books. tonight, just like we will after every upcoming debate, we're breaking it down, issue by issue. this means more talk from the candidate on a particular topic. looking at some of the totals, we'll show you what's going on. but, first, here are some of the highlights from the first presidential debate. >> what things would i cut from spending? first of all, i will eliminate all programs by this test. if they don't pass it. is the program so critical, it's worth boring money from china to pay for it? obama care is on my list. i apologize mr. president. jim, i'm sorry, i had stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird, like you too. but i won't keep on spending money to borrow money from china to pay for. i'll take programs that are currently good programs but could be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to state. and make government more efficient, cut back the number of employees, combine agencies and departments, cutbacks done through attrition by t
, basically you were right. this is the general election pivot by mitt romney. and i think to use a boxing metaphor, it made it feel like the last six months have been kind of rope-a-dope. he lulled him into not making a general election pivot and he pivoted. and the president didn't know what to say. >> but when you pivot that strong -- >> this was the genius of romney's vagueness. he didn't actually -- i'm sure we disagree about this, he didn't have to pivot strongly -- >> let's go easy on the word genius here. a lot of campaign ads are going to come out from last night. but listen, you got to -- you have to be listening to who you're talking to. and last night the president, a trained actor, ech though they know the lines that are coming listens and can react. hilary's right. he was shocked at all this new romney stuff. he still could have listened. he still could have reacted to some of what mitt romney said. >> he said something about needs to get a better accountant. >> he absolutely said your math doesn't add up. you're going to cut taxes by 20%. he said, no, i'm not going to cut an
romney right now. the biggest challenges facing the country are on the line as well as the outcome of this election. even the candidates' wives are feeling the stress. we have cnn exclusives tonight. brand new interviews with michelle obama and ann romney. the first lady shared her debate anxiety with our jessica yellin. >> i get so nervous at these debates and you know, i'm like one of those parents watching their kid on the balance beam. just standing there just trying not to, you know, have any expression at all. >> ann romney revealed to our gloria borger that she helped reassure her husband during past debates. >> and almost after every answer that he gives, he'll find me in the audience to see, was that good? was that okay? >> we're going to have much more on those interviews with michelle and ann as we count down to the debate. we're mobilizing the full resources of cnn for our coverage tonight. let's bring in and erson cooper. >> it's going to be an exciting night and during the debate, we are going to clock the candidates to see how much time they get to talk overall about
years ago, bret. >> that's right. this was by far governor romney's best debate. >> steve: ever. >> ever. he was on point and took it to the president and never left him off. >> steve: was that like the president -- worst debate. >> he had moments of you are likeable enough, hillary. this is the president obama comes out if you do what you need to do tie the economy to the president. governor romney never let that up and used $90 billion figure twice and not once. how it was worth 50 years was what regular oil and gas companies would have gotten and used it in the end to say that $90 billion could have been used to hire teachers. >> gretchen: what could be a headline and important with independent voters. he romney ironically talked about being the uniter and chief last night. >> that was very interesting. he cast a much bigger vision than the president did. >> steve: sounds like you would give mitt romney an a? >> absolutely. >> steve: what about the president. >> a c, when you don't do your homework you deserve a worse grade. it was obvious he had not prepared. >> steve: thank you for
with of the things about the president last night is for all of the many points that mitt romney had right up here, and he was able to effectively communicate them, the president had nothing. >> yeah. throw me a left one, jim, hurry up. it was great. and i thought mitt romney did a fabulous job of very methodically -- methodically dissecting barak obama. there was one case, it might have been during that exchange where he wandered from talking about the corporate jets, to medicaid, to pulling out some really irrelevant acin the case dote and romney was able to come back a, b, c, d, e, respond to each and every one of these points. and he just didn't let obama get away with the same kind of talking points and recycling that so many of the left dog media journalists have over the course of this campaign. >> gretchen: i think that's the headline of the night actually because people were calling this race over and people were saying that these debates might not matter. i totally disagreed with that, by the way. but to me, it was this opportunity for the american public to see both candidates on the sa
it move. this one very close right now, a dead heat, in recent days, the place romney needs to move the most, the state of ohio, almost impossible to see mitt romney winning the presidency in ohio. a five, maybe six point lead. the thing we need to watch over the next few days, does this move the polls in the swing states here? and, wolf, as you go into the vice presidential debate. camp on in. the vice presidential debate, then two more, the key challenge, without a doubt. governor romney will give energy to republic i hadi hads. the question, can he move the numbers in battleground states. it will be interesting to watch post debate advertising, resource allocation, i want to switch maps for one second. come up and look at this. here's what we know coming into the race. the tv ad counts this is -- a little confusing when you look at it first. pull out one state. colorado, the blue is the obama campaign, lighter blue, democratic pacs. pinkish red, the pro-romney pacs. why are the democrats spending more? trying to hold this state. why are republicans spending more, trying to catch
a clear indication of where they differ. i think you're right, certainly i think that plitt romney will be very claesed with the night. you look at the twitter verse, some democrats think the president seemed a little listless here. certainly when you think about it, mitt romney needed to come in here and make an impression. we'll see in the days ahead whether he did. but certainly i can assure you in the spin room right now, republicans are making the case that he did, in fact, make that impression. anderson. >> no doubt about that. reaction already pouring in. and we'll be taking the temperature of a lot of different groups over the next hour and a half. we have our analyst and reporters and cnn contributors. a quick reading right now. john king, david gergen. >> look at e-mails, conversations during the debate. twitterverse, republicans very happy, including the top team around mitt romney. liberals complaining about the president's performance. without a doubt, participating in republican primary debates helped mitt romney, the president was rusty. hasn't done this in four year
surrogates, florida senator marco rubio says that's the right approach. does mitt romney need to score a knockout punch? >> this is not an athletic competition. this is a debate between two money, one that is president and wants to stay there and one that wants to offer a new direction. >> reporter: all day long the romney campaign has signalled it will go after what it sees as another gaffe from vice president joe biden at a rally in charlotte. >> this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years. >> in the richest country in the history of the world this obama economy has crushed the middle class. >> reporter: romney's ad team quickly seized on the remarks churning out a web video. at an event in denver rubio piled on. >> those happen to be the words of the distinguished vice president of the united states mr. joe biden. no, don't boo. he's the best thing we got going, guys. don't boo. because in a moment of clarity, in a brief moment of clarity he just told us what we already knew. >> reporter
. it was a debate between a rusty president obama and a well rehearsed mitt romney. >> reporter: right out of the gate, it was clear, mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle down government would work. >> reporter: president obama sounded a familiar alarm, warning of romney's been there, done that economics. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. >> reporter: but whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive style. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> reporter: the president made his points in a slower, laid back manner, often appearing disengaged. it's not that h
sullivan. i think he's right on in all his points and i agree with you. romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done
romney. this isn't about left, right, good or bad, it's about coming to work to work. his challenger did. he took command. he took charge of that stage. issuing orders to moderator and rival al like. he owned that platform, opened all within the sound of his voice. it was impressive, powerful and must have been just who ahorrib feel the sufficiency of the thing. with romney in the room, there didn't need to be anywhere else. so i'm not here to slam obama for a hard night and that's what it is. my concern is his readiness to skip the politics of this campaign. today that means mastering the 24 hour clock. back and forth of politics, the war room stuff that gets you elected, protects you from being destroyed. did the president know he was allowed to mention his champion of the auto industry, did he know he was allowed to interrupt the pissant conversation about .bs in excuse me, i rescued the auto industry. you were willing to have it go bankrupt. did obama know he could interrupt his rival's expressions of concern with social security folk with the news that his rival tells his wealthy ba
of women's rights, bain, abortion, romney's jobs record in massachusetts even as he kept bringing up massachusetts over and over. chris, what did you think? >> well, this tonight wasn't an msnbc debate, was it? it just wasn't. it had none of the things you mentioned. it didn't mention all of the key fighting points of this campaign. and certainly there was no bobby kennedy in the green room before barack obama came out tonight. i don't know what he was doing there. he had his head down. he was enduring rather than fighting. romney came out with a campaign. he was going to be aggressive. nothing to do with the words he spoke. here's my question for obama. i know he likes to say he doesn't watch cable television, but maybe he should start. i don't know how he let romney get away with the crap he throughout tonight about social security. he said emergency room. the latest thing we got from romney because he said so, you know what i want to do with people when they're poor, shove them in the emergency room? why didn't obama say that? you talk about social security and medicare people? th
'm going to ignore him. what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was winning. >> all right. good morning. it's thursday, october 4th. welcome to "morning joe." wow! page turns a bit. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle and national affairs for "new york" magazine and political analyst john heilemann. and in nashville, i love nashville, pulitzer prize-winning historian jon meacham. meacham. should we go right there? >> in one second. i've -- we've got to set this up first for mike barnicle. we've all been saying the same thing. phone calls coming in last night from my democratic friends, independent friends, republicans, everybody's been asking the same thing, where did this come from? we've never seen this mitt romney before, but you say you have. >> yes, this is how mitt romney became governor of massachusetts in 2002 during a series of debates. he was exactly this way as he was last night. he came in prepared. he had a plan. he executed it. he was armed with specific information. he went right at the opponent. then it was shannon o'brien running for governor
it means the candidate can't star in the ads. right. we could go mitt romney event and film romney footage. would we getting the same things the news crew get. we can't shoot an ad of romney talks to the call are a why he'll be the best president. what it does is the anticoordination laws they almost make all the outside group negative because at that point you know we're not coordinating with barack obama to run a negative ad about him. we were to run a poz ad about mitt romney people would question where you get the footage from. in 2010 cross roads ran an ad supportive of now senator rob portman in the ohio senate race, we had pulled the video food age from a public i are available place youtube. -- [inaudible] within the fcc over something silly perversely the campaign laws have created a situation there's a lot of contrast advertising because of the prohibition. >> the committee is due. the economic their inexpect arms they doing a bunch of comparative ads. they don't coordinate each of the candidates is throwing the information on the party website. democrats, republicans same thing.
that these candidates represent. lots to talk about. let's get right to. all right. mitt romney coming out swinging. many viewers from the left and from the right say president obama took a shellacking. dana bash has the highlights. >> reporter: right out of the gate it was clear, mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle down government would work. >> president obama sounded a familiar alarm. warning of romney's been there done that economics. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. >> whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive ste. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care
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sources, brooke. i can tell you that the romney campaign does see this race tightening right now and that their game plan for tonight, as it was laid out to me, is to make sure that trajectory as one romney campaign source put it continues. they want to see the race continue to tighten. it is interesting to give you a couple of nuggets i got off the phone call a few moments ago, they are not going to be looking for a knockout punch tonight. what they're hoping to do for the american people is show a contrast, a clear contrast as they call it between the president's handling of the economy and what mitt romney would do were he elected president to fix the economy. so that is basically the game plan from the romney campaign, do no harm and live to fight another day. >> it is interesting to say he's not looking for a knockout punch, that's apparently what shannon o'brien who was hoping to win that gubernatorial race in massachusetts back in 2002, that's what he said she was so good at. we're talking to her later. romney has been pretty -- he's been known to get forceful, jim, when h
>> paul: that is it for this edition. thanks to my panel. i'm paul gigot. we hope to see you right here next week. >>> on fox news watch. a week of anticipation as the news media got set for the big debates. >> governor romney doesn't have to want charm offensive but he has to prove he can related to average american voters. >> but a big win for romney and big shocker for the mainstream press. >> where was the president? where was the fight? >> liberal media trying to spin the outcome and did he have their man. >> did you really mean to call barack obama lazy. to call him lazy.... >> new details about the murders in libya. but that was missed by most in the news business. a video clip from the president's past gets new attention for what was said. how did the media react and is it fair game? spanish channel univision gets high marks for covering fast and furious scandal. and weather channel heats up controversy about winter storms. >> jon: on the panel this week, writer fox news contributor, judyiller. also richard grenell. jing pinkerton and talk radio news bureau chief ellen ratn
of it is still benefits to the president right now and hurts the romney narrative i think. jenna: let me ask you this. taking out some of the partisan side of all of this for voters, we're officially in the crazy period, right, joe? >> right. jenna: this will get crazy over next couple weeks. as seasoned campaigner, someone who has been through the elections what tips can you give us as voters out there to navigate what we're hearing and what we're going to continue to hear over the next couple weeks to election day? >> people have to research the facts themselves. look at the charts, both sides will call each other liars and twist the facts and make the economic numbers look the way they want to look. if you're undecided, you really got to take time and look, you know, go online, or you know, pay attention to what is happening. and not listen to what the rhetoric on both sides is going to be i think. jenna: sounds like good advice, joe. appreciate it as always. look forward to having you back. thank you. >> thanks, jenna, more new information now on those millions of americans still looking for
never gone head to head. romney does need a win to make this a game changer. the match-up will be wednesday night in denver and of course, we know that you'll be tuned in right here to current tv tv for all of our pre and post-debate coverage. 83% of respondents to a new abc news poll said they're interested in the debates as well. so you're in good company. the supreme court starts a new session today. it plans to take up at least three big issues. it will focus on gay marriage, voting rights on affirmative action. fist stop will be affirmative action. opening arguments october 10th has to do with a city in texas and whether it will continue to use racial preferential as a factor in admissions. we're back with more steph after the break. presents coverage of the presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> you're going to hear that used as a major talking point. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >>now that's politically direct. [
democrats. so i think it's fine. >> yeah. all right. well, curious, rich, do you think mitt romney is going to push these conspiracy theories or do you think it's too out there to touch? >> no. this is washington, d.c. we make $86,000 a year or whatever that number was. the last really good secret that has been kept in washington was the manhattan project. i mean, everybody from the lowliest intern on capitol hill to the secretary of state has got reporters on their speed dial on their cell phones. so for that to be the case you would have to have a conspiracy within the bls, bureau of labor staffs and hope that nobody talked. that's just not possible. >> according to the president's opponents, rich, when the job number is bad it's because he's a failure. when they're good it's because he's a fraud. i mean, how does this not make them look just petty? >> i don't know that everybody's saying that. two people they know of said it. look, i agree with karen. good news is good news. the way you deal with this is to turn it on its head. if the president had had a great debate performance and romn
wisconsin. the romney people still think he can. after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> he's right. >> okay. >> i'm hearing this from democrats. and this broke through. we always hear about how americans aren't paying attention. they're looking at reality shows. this broke through, everybody was talking about it, not just how well romney did but how badly the president performed. >> well, just as i think it was premature to declare the race over before, i think it's too soon to say that that performance, as widely watched as it was, is going to move numbers. we have yet to see any numbers move. i think they probably will some. and i think that on the other hand, did governor romney win the day yesterday in the news cycle, given how strong he was thursday night? he didn't decisively win it. he did one event late in the day. look at the evening newscasts. look at the morning papers. >> he doesn't have to win every day. >> oh, i think he's got to win most days. he lost about two months of days. i think he's at
that exist right now. one of the things that i suspect governor romney and i probably agree on is getting businesses to work with community colleges so that they're setting up training programs -- >> to you agree, governor? >> let me just finish the point. they're partnering so that -- they're designing training programs and people who are going through them know that there's a job waiting for them if they complete it. that makes a big difference, but that requires some federal support. let me just say one final example. when it comes to making college affordable, whether it's two- year or four year, one of the things that i did as president was we were sending $60 billion to banks and lenders as middlemen for the student loan program, even of the loans were guaranteed. there is no risk for the banks or lenders, but they were taking billions out of the system. we said, why not cut out the middleman? as a consequence, we've been able to provide millions more students assistance, lower or keep low interest rates on student loans. and this is an example of where our priorities make a differe
of the ball to the delivery of the plate. mitt romney's got to find precisely the right arm slot. aggression with the right amount of respect for a popular president. he's got to figure out a way to flush out his agenda without getting to the unpopular parts he's been avoiding talking about like what are the tax breaks he's going to take to get the rates down. he's got to be on offense but not too much. it's hard. everything went right for george bush in 2000. gore was bad, he had orange make-up. he got in bush's face, that didn't go very well. bush overperformed, no foreign policy experience, he did very well. and the bush team outspun the gore people because they pushed their story line. and you went from, you know, minus five before the debate to plus a couple afterward and went on to win that disputed victory. but yes, romney can do it, he was a smart guy, good in most of the debates for the republicans. on the other hand, obama's pretty smart too and there's not much expectation to think he's going to screw up. >> what about, john, playing to that dull incompetent thing? he said in his
did you think? >> 320,000 employees, david cuts right to the matter. maybe there should be 220,000 employees. obviously, there were no questions that were substantively answered. that's okay. romney doesn't answer substantive questions. obama doesn't answer substantive questions. whitman doesn't answer substantive questions. i get that. three politicians, three answers that you don't really get to challenge them. >> the difference is we see the impact immediately, like now. like down 1.5%. i mean, investors don't have a reason to be in. she sort of admitted it, you know, if you think that hewlett-packard is going to be okay in three years, then that's where you want to be. two to three years, we don't know where we'll be in two to three years. >> i thought it was a bit of a kodak moment, frankly. >> really? because that's a loaded -- >> that's damning. >> a lot of people would say that's a loaded comment. >> i've been telling people to sell this thing nine ways to sunday ever since hurd left. she didn't slight hurd like in the maria interview. i will come back and say i always
romney kept saying that the president wants it take $716 million out of medicare right away. and the president didn't really refute that. let's take a look at these comments. >> but on medicare, for current retirees, he's cutting $716 billion from the program. now, he says by not overpaying hospitals and providers, actually just going to them and say we're going to reduce the rates you get paid across the board, everybody is going to get a lower rate, that's not just going after places where there's abuse, that's saying we're cutting the race. >> $716 billion we were able to save from the medicare program by no longer overpaying insurance companies, by making sure that we weren't overpaying providers. >> i think i said $716 million. obviously it's billion. what's the truth here, do we know? >> yeah, there's a core effect here that's not in dispute which is that obamacare takes $716 billion out of the medicare system over 10 years. the president -- president obama is arguing that that came out of overpayments to insurance and other things that won't affect the care of patient
needs to do it right now. especially white college-educated women. mitt romney has got to get about 60% of the white vote. he's fine among white men to get there but needs to do better among white women, especially upscale suburban white women, the kind that turned away from him on some social issues and the role of government. that's the opening for him and he's got to cease it. >> coverage of the first presidential debate begins at 8:00 p.m. eastern time here on cnbc. carl quintanilla, maria, and others will be hosting that. >> shares are down of metropcs. making it the fourth largest wireless company behind sprint. so often left out in the cold. what is next for sprint on hopes of the user base? we're joined by jim, an analyst. thank you for joining us. >> good morning. >> as we get the details coming in, it's a reverse merger. deutsch gets the debt, $15 billion of debt and you've got $1.5 billion in cash that goes to metro pcs. is anything different than you were anticipating coming into today? >> no, not especially from things that came out. the speed of the deal coming out was pr
.s. is not completely above reproach, he usually balance it with praise for things the country had done right. all that -- that is in a long acknowledging pastdents imperfections. these cannot by any normal dictionaries amount to apologies. either formal or informal. again, last month, when romney accepted his party's nomination, he repeated the assertion that obama had begun his presidency with an apology tour, and obama had confessed the u.s. had "dictated to other nations." that fact check story went into greater detail, pointing out that obama's trips to europe, latin america, to the muslim world during his first months in office, no indications were he had said the nation had made mistakes. in most of those cases, the context was a call for better relations with other countries after which he described as damage done by misguided moves by his predecessor, bush. so we fact check that. again, it did not seem to make a difference to the campaign. earlier this month, when that violence broke out at u.s. diplomatic outposts in libya and egypt. romney jumped to accuse obama of disgraceful handling
don't believe in the right putting rapists and child molesters over victims. so even if mitt romney puts his poo on a cake i don't have to eat it. and we is going to clean the federal government out, and give the money to his cohorts. >> stephanie: yep. >> he is starting with the attack on big bird so there you go -- >> stephanie: there you go. and someone has to stand up for big bird. >> big bird is going to have to learn mandarin. >> stephanie: exactly. ♪ when the bird walks in with an itty bitty beak you [ inaudible ] and i can't deny ♪ [ mocking laughter ] >> stephanie: rocky mountain mike, oh, you little scamp. [ applause ] >> stephanie: okay. ney in baltimore you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> caller: hello, hi. >> stephanie: hi. >> caller: good morning to everyone. i watched the debate last night, and it had me laughing at mitt romney because it looked like he was on speed. >> and he is not allowed to drink coffee. >> caller: yes. and i think obama played the rules fairly and romney was very rude to the moderator, so i'm still going to vote for my
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